Straight and gay-for-pay pornstars

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johnjohnston said:
Most of those dudes that you listed claimed to be “gay4pay” at the beginning of their “careers” but later claimed bi, pan, fluid, “likes to experiment”, “I don’t believe in labels” identities. And a couple of those guys you listed have had boyfriends (Markie More and Ty Roderick have unabashedly dated dudes). Some of those guys you listed never even claimed to be “straight” or “gay4pay”. People just have them those monikers.

Authentic “gay4pay” is way more rare than the porn industry presents and a lot of fantasy focused porn consumers like to believe. “Gay4pay” is mostly used for marketing, or to make it easier to transition to hetero porn, or for hetero-leaning dudes to ward off being viewed as “gay”, or for guys who just contend with a lot of internalized phobias, gay resentments, queer insecurities. Most of these porn performers (and that includes gay-presenting peformers) are in the bi/pan spectrum, or contend with stuff like fluidity, contradictions, paraphiliacs, or are in the general gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. If you’re here for the “gay4pay” fantasy of it all, fine. But the reality is that almost all these “gay4pay” dudes do indeed have queer dimensions and are not conventionally heterosexual and completely hetero when it comes to the overall spectrum.
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I think "gay4pay" in reality is not really about sexuality but certain look and behavior; almost all guys who are called "gay4pay" even if they are fully gay because they are white muscular jocks with bad tatoos who came from some small redneck town.
I think some people keep insisting that these men are str8 because of "too good to be true" way of thinking and internalized homophobia- they believe that all men who are sexually attracted(even a little) to men must be wimpy, effeminate, insecure guys who listen to Beyonce and experiment with make-up; oh and of course they must be super liberal,woke etc. Basically they must look nd act like James Charles lol.
So when they see a guy who look and act like that jock they lusted after in high school they came to conclusion that there is no way this guy can desire gay sex or fantasize about men cause their vision of gay man is limited( and bisexuality doesnt exist duh so straight is only thing left).



Plus these people think that LGBTQ is like 1-2% of population lol. Sorry but not; according to newest surveys over 20% of gen Z identify as LGBTQ.
 
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weebs79 said:
I think Johnny Rapid is saying he's bi because he's in it for the long haul & it's good for business but personally I believe he's more straight than anything. He just has that hetero disconnect, at least to me. I love him either way.
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Here's the deal. Bisexual doesn't have to mean that you like both men and woman equally 50/50. It doesn't even mean that you persue relationships with both men and woman 50/50. It only means that you have sexual intrests for both men and woman.

Johnny could be one of those bisexuals in the industry who started off thinking they were completely straight and just in it for the money, until gradually realizing over time that gay sex could be pleasurable and even exciting. At that point, he couldn't really call himself completely heterosexual, so bisexual is a more fitting label.
 
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Randomized said:
Here's the deal. Bisexual doesn't have to mean that you like both men and woman equally 50/50. It doesn't even mean that you persue relationships with both men and woman 50/50. It only means that you have sexual intrests for both men and woman.

Johnny could be one of those bisexuals in the industry who started off thinking they were completely straight and just in it for the money, until gradually realizing over time that gay sex could be pleasurable and even exciting. At that point, he couldn't really call himself completely heterosexual, so bisexual is a more fitting label.
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I'm well aware of the Kinsey scale. I just think he's more of a 1 1/2.
 
johnjohnston said:
Most of those dudes that you listed claimed to be “gay4pay” at the beginning of their “careers” but later claimed bi, pan, fluid, “likes to experiment”, “I don’t believe in labels” identities. And a couple of those guys you listed have had boyfriends (Markie More and Ty Roderick have unabashedly dated dudes). Some of those guys you listed never even claimed to be “straight” or “gay4pay”. People just have them those monikers.

Authentic “gay4pay” is way more rare than the porn industry presents and a lot of fantasy focused porn consumers like to believe. “Gay4pay” is mostly used for marketing, or to make it easier to transition to hetero porn, or for hetero-leaning dudes to ward off being viewed as “gay”, or for guys who just contend with a lot of internalized phobias, gay resentments, queer insecurities. Most of these porn performers (and that includes gay-presenting peformers) are in the bi/pan spectrum, or contend with stuff like fluidity, contradictions, paraphiliacs, or are in the general gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. If you’re here for the “gay4pay” fantasy of it all, fine. But the reality is that almost all these “gay4pay” dudes do indeed have queer dimensions and are not conventionally heterosexual and completely hetero when it comes to the overall spectrum.
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All completely valid points but I'd like to think we're all aware or at least semi-aware of your points...

I know a lot of the 'gay4pay' branded pornstars in the industry right now and in the last 15 years are actually bi, pan or just closeted but the Original poster of this thread just wanted a list of gay4pay performers and gave examples of Malik Delgaty, Adam Bryant, Bo Sinn....

Based on that, I've given the OP a list of performers all of which fall into one of the following buckets if not multiple:
- they've said they're gay4pay during their career
- their studios claim the performer is gay4pay
- the performer announces after quitting gay porn that it was all faked and they're actually straight
- the performer is a religious nutjob and claims the industry is sinful after making their money
- or if there's just very strong rumours that the gay-presenting performer is actually straight and pretending

Whether or not any of the above statements are factual or based in reality is a separate conversation, what matters is that at one point all of the performers in my list have publicly fallen into one of the categories if not multiple :)
 
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I think "gay4pay" in reality is not really about sexuality but certain look and behavior; almost all guys who are called "gay4pay" even if they are fully gay because they are white muscular jocks with bad tatoos who came from some small redneck town.
I think some people keep insisting that these men are str8 because of "too good to be true" way of thinking and internalized homophobia- they believe that all men who are sexually attracted(even a little) to men must be wimpy, effeminate, insecure guys who listen to Beyonce and experiment with make-up; oh and of course they must be super liberal,woke etc. Basically they must look nd act like James Charles lol.
So when they see a guy who look and act like that jock they lusted after in high school they came to conclusion that there is no way this guy can desire gay sex or fantasize about men cause their vision of gay man is limited( and bisexuality doesnt exist duh so straight is only thing left).



Plus these people think that LGBTQ is like 1-2% of population lol. Sorry but not; according to newest surveys over 20% of gen Z identify as LGBTQ.
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Here’s a thought: Resist the urge to psychoanalyze my kink. You don’t know me. I don’t need validation. I know most of these guys aren’t 100% straight, and are on a spectrum. Some reenact their homosexual fantasies/kinks on screen, but live heteronormative lives. I don’t care. I’m not trying to marry and settle down with any of them. I just find it hot and want to jerk my dick. Plain and simple. If u got names, send them. Thanks!!
 
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Spencer said in multiple interviews that he's bi and even prefers a versatile sexual role. Here's one of those interviews
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Everyone: I am bi bi bi bi gay bi bi bi gay straight....
Donte Thick: i ConSiDEr mYsELf oTHeR
 
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carlosrodriguez said:
All completely valid points but I'd like to think we're all aware or at least semi-aware of your points...

I know a lot of the 'gay4pay' branded pornstars in the industry right now and in the last 15 years are actually bi, pan or just closeted but the Original poster of this thread just wanted a list of gay4pay performers and gave examples of Malik Delgaty, Adam Bryant, Bo Sinn....

Based on that, I've given the OP a list of performers all of which fall into one of the following buckets if not multiple:
- they've said they're gay4pay during their career
- their studios claim the performer is gay4pay
- the performer announces after quitting gay porn that it was all faked and they're actually straight
- the performer is a religious nutjob and claims the industry is sinful after making their money
- or if there's just very strong rumours that the gay-presenting performer is actually straight and pretending

Whether or not any of the above statements are factual or based in reality is a separate conversation, what matters is that at one point all of the performers in my list have publicly fallen into one of the categories if not multiple :)
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About half of male porn performers in queer porn start their “careers” claiming to be “straight” or at least “preferring women”. That was especially the case up until the mid 2010’s. That’s partially why I find it silly for folks to obsess with “straight” or “gay4pay” performers, as if that represents a small percentage of male performers. While yes, there are many sensible people who understand that all of this is indenty politics, fantasy and persona and ego and money-making. But a lot of folks who post on places like this do not truly understand sexuality (they think male “sexuality” is merely what gets you hard or who you fvck). Many also don’t get identity politics, the porn industry, sex work industry, the variables and nuances of bisexuality/pan-sexuality/fluidity/preferences, the gender, sexual, affection, affrimation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum, hyper-sexuality, paraphiliacs, traumas, mental health, internalized phobias, human psyche. All they know is porn and their fantasies.
 
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TeddyFarron said:
I'm sure someone finds all this debating fascinating. But OP really was looking just for suggestions for his fetish... i don't think his fetish was a bunch of gays debating whether straight or bi guys even really exist.
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I’m actually pan-sexual (though I don’t care that much about identities and am fine with being viewed as “gay”). In some ways I sexually prefer women, but I only maintain passions and romantic/emotion investment in my sex. I don’t see any posts in this thread claiming “straight” or “bi” guys don’t exist. While the OP was fairly thorough in their initial post. My point is that, yes, it’s somewhat okay to have a “straight”/“gay4pay” fetish. However, many queers are very naive when it comes to that concept, and many people (both in and out of porn) reduce folks to mere identities or fantasies or sexual behaviors. Nevermind how so many queers treat “straightness” or simply non-homo-ness as if it’s superior and spend their whole lives chasing men that don’t want them. Only the tiniest percentage of guys who spend years in queer porn even maintain a “gay4pay”/legit traditionally hetero persona. Bisexuality, pan-sexuality, fluidity, hyper-sexuality, paraphiliacs, contradictions, queer insecurities, gay resentments- these things are way more common than guys being legit “gay4pay”, and that’s both in and out of the porn industry.

There’s nothing wrong with fantasy. But this is 2023. It’s time to update your shit. You need to at some point look past the fantasy and actually try to understand the nuances and individuality of sexuality, sexual journey, preferences, sexual and identity politics, sociology, insecurities, human psyches, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. This ain’t 2008 no more. And the fact that people are obsessed with deeming men “straight” who never even claimed to be “straight” is a problem.
 
johnjohnston said:
You need to at some point look past the fantasy and actually try to understand the nuances and individuality of sexuality, sexual journey, preferences, sexual and identity politics, sociology, insecurities, human psyches, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.
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Right... But when you're hard and you just want to jerk off can't you just enjoy the fantasy and nut so you can go on and be a somewhat functional human being? And maybe think of all the stuff you mentioned during post-nut clarity?
 
johnjohnston said:
I’m actually pan-sexual (though I don’t care that much about identities and am fine with being viewed as “gay”). In some ways I sexually prefer women, but I only maintain passions and romantic/emotion investment in my sex. I don’t see any posts in this thread claiming “straight” or “bi” guys don’t exist. While the OP was fairly thorough in their initial post. My point is that, yes, it’s somewhat okay to have a “straight”/“gay4pay” fetish. However, many queers are very naive when it comes to that concept, and many people (both in and out of porn) reduce folks to mere identities or fantasies or sexual behaviors. Nevermind how so many queers treat “straightness” or simply non-homo-ness as if it’s superior and spend their whole lives chasing men that don’t want them. Only the tiniest percentage of guys who spend years in queer porn even maintain a “gay4pay”/legit traditionally hetero persona. Bisexuality, pan-sexuality, fluidity, hyper-sexuality, paraphiliacs, contradictions, queer insecurities, gay resentments- these things are way more common than guys being legit “gay4pay”, and that’s both in and out of the porn industry.

There’s nothing wrong with fantasy. But this is 2023. It’s time to update your shit. You need to at some point look past the fantasy and actually try to understand the nuances and individuality of sexuality, sexual journey, preferences, sexual and identity politics, sociology, insecurities, human psyches, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. This ain’t 2008 no more. And the fact that people are obsessed with deeming men “straight” who never even claimed to be “straight” is a problem.
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Mate please .... congratulations for all your philosophical pondering but once again, OP asked the community for suggestions of gay-4-pay performers they could jerk off to, and we delivered some names.

Well done on your self-righteous offloading of info you've subjected us to over the last two days but please leave haha. This is not a debate thread or anything close to therapy, you're on a website dedicated to Large Penises .... read the room :)
 
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i don't see why ricky larkin now doing bisexual scene and transgender scene because last time i cheack he start in porn business he was doing gay porn he was fucking messing around with guys when he started swinging the field fucking messing around doing bisexual scene transgender scene i find it crazy and confusing he doing that kind of work doing bisexual scene and transgender scene it is sending wrong message in the lgbtq communmity that ricky larkin is really gay for real
 
johnjohnston said:
About half of male porn performers in queer porn start their “careers” claiming to be “straight” or at least “preferring women”. That was especially the case up until the mid 2010’s. That’s partially why I find it silly for folks to obsess with “straight” or “gay4pay” performers, as if that represents a small percentage of male performers. While yes, there are many sensible people who understand that all of this is indenty politics, fantasy and persona and ego and money-making. But a lot of folks who post on places like this do not truly understand sexuality (they think male “sexuality” is merely what gets you hard or who you fvck). Many also don’t get identity politics, the porn industry, sex work industry, the variables and nuances of bisexuality/pan-sexuality/fluidity/preferences, the gender, sexual, affection, affrimation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum, hyper-sexuality, paraphiliacs, traumas, mental health, internalized phobias, human psyche. All they know is porn and their fantasies.
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Lol. The last part. What makes you think that most of us don’t know about sexuality and identity politics? Maybe some of us are just here to get our rocks off by buying into fantasy. Why do you think it’s your job to provide answers to questions no one asked?
 
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carlosrodriguez said:
Mate please .... congratulations for all your philosophical pondering but once again, OP asked the community for suggestions of gay-4-pay performers they could jerk off to, and we delivered some names.

Well done on your self-righteous offloading of info you've subjected us to over the last two days but please leave haha. This is not a debate thread or anything close to therapy, you're on a website dedicated to Large Penises .... read the room :)
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This needs a round of applause!!!!
 
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Randomized said:
Here's the deal. Bisexual doesn't have to mean that you like both men and woman equally 50/50. It doesn't even mean that you persue relationships with both men and woman 50/50. It only means that you have sexual intrests for both men and woman.

Johnny could be one of those bisexuals in the industry who started off thinking they were completely straight and just in it for the money, until gradually realizing over time that gay sex could be pleasurable and even exciting. At that point, he couldn't really call himself completely heterosexual, so bisexual is a more fitting label.
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Johnny was on persondotcom camming the other day and speaking about 2 ex boyfriends... so there's that...and says he really like a gay guy in his industry but he's a friend so doesn't want to spoil things...so there;s that too...
 
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Johnny was on persondotcom camming the other day and speaking about 2 ex boyfriends... so there's that...and says he really like a gay guy in his industry but he's a friend so doesn't want to spoil things...so there;s that too...
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I recall him saying some really gay panic-y and borderline homophobic shit when he started doing porn. I also recall him getting in trouble for trying to hook up with underage girls and also hyping up incest hook-ups. The dude comes off like a bit of predator who gets away with it because he’s cute and twink-y. He also comes off like someone leeching off of “gays” and who has a lot of issues with his sexuality, insecurities, traumas, paraphiliacs, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.

I didn’t post to shame what people get off to. But “gay4pay” is not only about your “fantasies”. It also has negative attributions: men using that title to try and shield their queer dimensions and gay resentments, drug addicted or mentally ill or desperate men doing things they don’t want to, people uplifting “straight” men and hetero behaviors as superior, people not actually understanding the dimensions and individuality of sexuality, preferences, paraphiliacs, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, relationship, commitment spectrum. So, yeah, the fantasy is fine. Do your thing. But there’s no problem with looking at the full picture. Sorry if I busted some bubbles with actually talking about reality.
 
johnjohnston said:
I recall him saying some really gay panic-y and borderline homophobic shit when he started doing porn. I also recall him getting in trouble for trying to hook up with underage girls and also hyping up incest hook-ups. The dude comes off like a bit of predator who gets away with it because he’s cute and twink-y. He also comes off like someone leeching off of “gays” and who has a lot of issues with his sexuality, insecurities, traumas, paraphiliacs, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.

I didn’t post to shame what people get off to. But “gay4pay” is not only about your “fantasies”. It also has negative attributions: men using that title to try and shield their queer dimensions and gay resentments, drug addicted or mentally ill or desperate men doing things they don’t want to, people uplifting “straight” men and hetero behaviors as superior, people not actually understanding the dimensions and individuality of sexuality, preferences, paraphiliacs, the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, relationship, commitment spectrum. So, yeah, the fantasy is fine. Do your thing. But there’s no problem with looking at the full picture. Sorry if I busted some bubbles with actually talking about reality.
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So you’re at it again. Listen, I’m fully aware of the optics and identity politics involved. But you need to shut it. Just because you identify as pan and probably read a book about it, doesn’t mean you get to come here preaching about us not knowing the nuances of sexuality. Queer folks been navigating sexuality, queerness and performativity all our damn lives. We’re well aware of all the nuances and complexities of all of this.

And at the end of the day, I like jerking my dick to guys who identify as heterosexual, but fuck men on camera. I don’t care what you have to say about it.
 
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